Ping 2

I'm attempting to use the A-Toolbar to ping curtin.edu.au it is only a speculation but I think that as I am doing the ping from a home based computer from the same country and not through a web site, I can ping directly to the curtin address. As you can see the difference is enormous between this and my trace attempt below.



The question arises for me what is the difference between a Trace and a Ping? this is something i must really look into. As i understand it a Ping is measuring the time it takes a package to be sent, and a Trace is following the route a package takes but ultimately both provide seemingly very similar information.

Internet Tools

After reading the page on How Routers Work (http://computer.howstuffworks.com/router10.htm) I went ahead and did the trace on curtin.edu.au. I ended up using network-tools.com as the other site was unable to complete the trace, I believe the problem was that the trace was timing out. After completing the trace and fiddling around with pasting the outcome to this blog I came to the conclusion that it would be a lot simpler to attach an edited(removed unwanted banners) screen shot of my results.

here it is finally,





It would appear as though there are twenty hops from tools.com to curtin.edu.au, I do wonder however about hops 17 - 19 that have registered as timed out, do these hops actually count towards the total?. If not then the hop count from tools.com to curtin.edu.au would be seventeen.

The average time it took for the trace was 2229.66m/s, the final piece to this task was to identify the IP number for curtin.edu.au, which is 134.7.179.53

File Transer Protocol (FTP)

Hmmm what can I say, we'll Ive never used filezilla before, but it turned out to be a simple learning curve especially after I read the help file, I downloaded the file README and low and behold there it was the answer to my query The file I found was

* ATTENTION MAC, OS/2, MS-DOS and MS-WINDOWS users:
This server runs on a unix platform, so CAPITALIZATION MATTERS!A file named "file.txt" IS NOT THE SAME as "FILE.TXT"
-------------------------------------------------------------------* Converting and compressing files:
Sailor's ftp server can compress files on the fly, using the following forms of compression and file extensions:
compression method extension------------------ ---------GNU zip (gzip) .gz unix compress .Zinfo-zip .zip
The info-zip format is compatible with PKZIP, popular on manyMS-DOS, MS-Windows and Windows '95 systems.
All compression techniques require you to set your transfer mode to BINARY.
Getting a file with a particular compression type is as simple as asking for it. For example, if you want to get the file "wifrb10.txt" in gzip format, use the following commands:
(The server's response is left out here)
ftp> binary ftp> get wifrb10.txt.gz
For compatibility with file systems that allow only "8.3" file names, (or systems that allow only one dot in a filename), our server is configured to allow you to replace the".txt" extension with the extension of the compressed file. For example, to get the file above, with an 8.3 file name, you could have issued the commands:
ftp> binary ftp> get wifrb10.gz
For files with an extension other than ".txt", this method will not work - however, your ftp client will probably allow you to specify the local filename on the command line - so,to get the file "INDEXALL.GUT" in zip format with a ".zip"extension, you would use these commands:
ftp> binary ftp> get INDEXALL.GUT.zip indexall.zip
Since many web browsers don't allow you to get ftp files that don't appear in the listings, we have included the .zip filesin the Gutenberg archives.
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It would appear that the word I was searching for is CAPITALIZATION (highlighted in red text above)

This task though simple had one time consuming component. I found that I had to search manually through all the files to locate the one needed. I think that if a file search was installed in filezilla it would have made the process more efficient. I can only imagine what a nightmare it would be to have to search an entire database for a specific file, Maybe I'm wrong but it would seem that an exacting address to a specific file would probably have helped also, but then maybe the task would have been to simple.

Telnet task B

Ive been thinking about task B for a while now hence my lack of communication sorry everyone. This telnet site blinkenlights.nl is a very clever use of limited resources, the use of keyboard characters as a graphics tool was something I used to toy with when I was younger. Although time and technology have moved forward to create faster smoother graphics applications. It was a nice nostalgia trip, but as previously stated on the deakin library telnet task the monochrome graphics can soon lead to a lack of interest due to insufficient visual stimuli, But that is only my opinion of course it would have take a great deal of patience and time to put this ditty together and for what its worth congratulations to the designer, there is no way I would have the patience to complete movie length extravaganza like this, of course nowadays with all the graphics applications available to us it would still be a huge undertaking but the final outcome would be a lot more visually appealing. This type of content although very primitive would have had some obstacles to overcome at the time of its creation, such as getting out to the audience lol. who ever that may have been, not many people would have had access to a computer let alone known about telnet, even now the amount of people that know of the existence of telnet does not make this a widely viewed medium for anything other than records and data retrieval. With that in mind the need for new technologies and software would have been a necessary step in getting the information to a wider audience not to mention a wider variety of content availability.

I think I have spent enough time on the first task. I summoning up my thoughts on telnet.library.deakin.edu.au I felt that the lack of visual aids does tend to make the
experience of searching rather boring. On the up side the search was fast and efficient,
if you are seriously looking for a specific item I believe this to be a valuable tool, on the other hand if you are just browsing and not really sure of what you need then I think that you would soon lose interest because of the lack of visual stimuli.

Resolved

At last I recieved an email from the library, I was expecting the entire book to download but apparently all that is supplied is details on the book and its availability. Although this was a simple task, without any prior knowledge on how to accomplish it, it became very frustrating. Especially when I didnt know that the email address I sent it to wasnt the class email function.
Im feeling rather silly at the moment as I look back it all seems so simple. One part that confuses me still is the question that the telnet application asks when you first log onto the library, which is what type of terminal am I using vt100 or ncsa vt100, I have no clue as to what this is, I had better look it up.

Dec 5th

Once again after retrieving my Curtain email address I attempted to download the requested files through telnet. As the search displayed two files I attempted to download both at the same time, At the moment there is no indication that this has been successful. In my next attempt if needed I will try to download them seperately. Feels like a trial and error scenario at the moment. Telnet does appear to be efficient and fast although the text only display can be a little bland and boring.

Dec 3rd, Telnet

My attempts at logging onto telnet prooved frustrating to start with, silly me forgot to add library to the beginning of the address. Once i managed to access the deakin library I found two results for the required search. hmmm have decided to stop at that for the moment and print off course notes and peruse those first to get a better understanding of what it is im supposed to be doing.